Disputatio Usoris:Dandv

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Salve

Salve, Dandv!

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In paginis encyclopaedicis mos noster non est nomen dare, sed in paginis disputationis memento editis tuis nomen subscribere, litteris impressis --~~~~, quibus insertis nomen tuum et dies apparebit. Quamquam vero in paginis ipsis nisi lingua Latina uti non licet, in paginis disputationum qualibet lingua scribi solet. Quodsi quid interrogare velis, vel Taberna vel pagina disputationis mea tibi patebit. Ave! Spero te "Vicipaedianum" fieri velle!

Etiamsi anglice bene sit, te cum nobis fruere spero! Me paenitet bene latine loqui nescio :( !

yoikes! ':< I saw your English as a universal language and hope you are not an fundamentalist jihad fighter for the English language! I responded about the Plastic in Rafael's page. I like the latin language because I feel growth there. I think Romanian is an interesting language too since it retains some declensions. Please check out Interlingua. --Jondel 10:49, 10 Novembris 2010 (UTC)[reply]

"I like the latin language because I feel growth there." -- If we consider growth as a criterion, then English has tremendous growth: The Global Language Monitor announced that the English language had crossed the 1,000,000-word threshold on June 10, 2009. Neologisms are coined regularly in medicine, science, technology and other fields. See en:English_language#Number_of_words_in_English. I doubt Latin has that kind of growth.

"I think Romanian is an interesting language too since it retains some declensions." - I think Malyalam is an interesting language because it has cute-looking glyphs. However, that is highly counter-productive to publishing and absorbing information, just as declensions are mostly useless.

To clarify, my criteria for judging a language are: quantity of useful information already written in that language, ease of learning, ease of reading and writing (non-Latin scripts fall short at that), user mass, expressive power. -- Dandv 08:25, 11 Novembris 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Hey English is probably the best language as a lingua franca. No one is arguing that English the major lingua franca.... but for how long?

I'm not sure I get the point of this question? --Dandv 22:03, 11 Novembris 2010 (UTC)[reply]

There are othere who feel Chinese should be the lingua franca.

I explained why Chinese is a bad choice for a lingua franca. -- Dandv 22:03, 11 Novembris 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Latin has a longer 'lingua franca' existance.

argumentum ad antiquitatem -- Dandv 22:03, 11 Novembris 2010 (UTC)[reply]

For me latin is a challenge.

Plus it does have uses. People climb mountains simply because its there.--Jondel 08:47, 11 Novembris 2010 (UTC)[reply]

I mean no disrespect, since I'm not a native English speaker myself, but proper English writing seems to be a bit of a challenge as well for you. -- Dandv 22:03, 11 Novembris 2010 (UTC)[reply]

If you still feel you have arguments for publicizing articles about modern topics in Latin, let's please continue the discussion at English as a universal language.

Lingua latina franca

Martinus huius paginae usori salutem dicit suam.

Illa, o Danvd, argumenta quae pro Anglico sermone utendo scripsisti, plurima solum de usus arte prope accedunt. Dixisti quoque linguam latinam utendam hodie esse argumentum ad antiquitatem, haec verum falsa argumenta cum sit lingua latina artificiosa, cuius usus omnibus in temporibus 2000 annos (a Plauto usque ad Latinitatem Vivam) statum suum in contribuendi rationibus praeter mutationes minores custodire quivit. Non statica nec dynamica: aurea mediocritas. Propterea linguam Anglicam per 200 annos plene mutata esse poterat, eg. hodierno Anglo intellegi difficulter non possent texti, qui Shaksperius scripsit nisi vocabulario. De hoc sat. Sermo latinus propterea pretia conservans per 2000 annos se restituere potuit paucis mutationibus. --Martinus Poeta Juvenis 13:47, 19 Decembris 2010 (UTC)[reply]

I have no idea what you wrote here, and Google Translate is mostly useless. As I advised, please direct arguments against English as a universal language here, in English. -- Dandv 23:12, 20 Decembris 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Dear Dandv,

Those arguments, what you wrote for the English as an universal language, are right, but your arguments are from practical art, - only. You said that the use of the Latin language is an argumentum ad antiquitatem, what is a false-accusation, because the Latin language isn't dead, because it never was a living language. Sounds strange, but true. In the time of the Roman Empire was only the literar and artifical language of the elite to communicate between occidental provinces. Therefore Latin never was living or dead. The Latin can itself restore with the conservation of the culture, therefore it can remain by 2000 years with smaller lexical and stylistical mutationes. And the English language will go to ruin (isolate) from this aspect, compare the Shakespear's, and of today. Great divisions. And the use of Latin is fact (eg. Newton, Descartes), and not hypoteses. --Martinus Poeta Juvenis 08:46, 22 Decembris 2010 (UTC)[reply]