Disputatio Usoris:Marceloapm
Salve, Marceloapm!
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-- Andrew Dalby (disputatio) 14:23, 9 Septembris 2018 (UTC)
-Salve, Andrew. Ego meminero scribere meum nomen usorem quando ad alias gentes fabulor. --Marceloapm (disputatio) 16:30, 9 Septembris 2018 (UTC)
Ratio obstructionis
[fontem recensere]Hunc usorem obstruxi quia inconsulte paginam frequentatissimam Civitates Foederatae Americae (cuius nomen fontibus fidei dignis satis corroboratur) movit, fonte non dato; quo facto, bellum editoriale inutiliter gessit. Apud Vicipaediam bella non gerimus. Andrew Dalby (disputatio) 08:16, 7 Septembris 2018 (UTC)
- Usor nihil scripsit sed commentum meum delevit. Restitui ad interim: melius est hanc historiam aperte monstrare. Andrew Dalby (disputatio) 08:11, 8 Septembris 2018 (UTC)
- Salve, Andrew. Scripsi ad tua paginae Vicipaediae in anglico. Gratis tibi ago. *I hope we can solve this issue. Sorry for my bad Latin, please correct me if I'm wrong*.
- Salve et tu, Marceloapm. Thanks for your message on your English talk page. I have unblocked you. Andrew Dalby (disputatio) 14:23, 9 Septembris 2018 (UTC)
- Salve, Andrew. Scripsi ad tua paginae Vicipaediae in anglico. Gratis tibi ago. *I hope we can solve this issue. Sorry for my bad Latin, please correct me if I'm wrong*.
I reverted your move of this page for two reasons: 1. the name to which you moved is not grammatical; 2. there is a source, duly cited on the page, for the existing name "Domus regia Buckinghamensis". Noting this and the previous discussion, and since you do not apparently understand Latin, this is a warning that you should not move pages on Vicipaedia. Andrew Dalby (disputatio) 16:17, 3 Iulii 2020 (UTC)
- Salve, Andrew. I was only trying to help. To me, "palatium" sounds like a much more precise word to say "palace" than just "domus". Perhaps you can explain this to me. Marceloapm 19:49, 3 Iulii 2020 (UTC)
- Yes, I'll explain. "Domus regia" and "palatium" have both been used in Latin for a monarch's house, and they are (I would say) equally precise. Writers of Latin have chosen one or the other for quite complex historical reasons.
- Wikipedias have to be based on reliable sources. So Vicipaedia's choice of names isn't based on what Marceloapm thinks, or what Andrew Dalby thinks, it's based on sources. In this case we have a source for "regia Buckinghamensis", which is shorthand for "domus regia Buckinghamensis". In our title, it was better to use the more explicit form "Domus regia Buckinghamensis", though in the text of an article, "regia Buckinghamensis" would usually do just as well.
- "Domus (regia)" is feminine; "Palatium" is neuter. That means the accompanying adjective has to agree in gender. So if we ever find a source for "palatium Buckinghamensis" we will know at once that the source is suspect: the real Latin form would be "palatium Buckinghamense". That's why I reverted your move as soon as I saw it: pagenames that are grammatically incorrect have to be changed. To make it worse, you hadn't cited a source for your new name, and you had changed the lemma (the words in bold at the beginning of the page) while leaving its footnote in place. That's really bad. So I came here to tell you. And then, reading the discussion above (which you had deleted, but I had restored), I noticed that this was the second time you had done such a thing. That's why I am warning you not to move pages on Vicipaedia in the future. Andrew Dalby (disputatio) 12:27, 4 Iulii 2020 (UTC)
- Salve, Andrew. I was only trying to help. To me, "palatium" sounds like a much more precise word to say "palace" than just "domus". Perhaps you can explain this to me. Marceloapm 19:49, 3 Iulii 2020 (UTC)
- Ok, so until there is a reliable source that uses the term "Palatium Buckinghamense", we can't use it. I think it's best this way; that's what Wikipedia is about anyway: being reliable. I also know about the adjectives agreeing on the gender, but sometimes still make errors. May I please know how or where you learned Latin at such a high level? I want to learn it really well and hopefully contribute to Wikipedia the right way. Marceloapm 19:53, 4 Iulii 2020 (UTC)
- I don't claim a high level. But I learned Latin at school and university long ago. I often read and write Latin. Andrew Dalby (disputatio) 13:54, 5 Iulii 2020 (UTC)
- Ok, so until there is a reliable source that uses the term "Palatium Buckinghamense", we can't use it. I think it's best this way; that's what Wikipedia is about anyway: being reliable. I also know about the adjectives agreeing on the gender, but sometimes still make errors. May I please know how or where you learned Latin at such a high level? I want to learn it really well and hopefully contribute to Wikipedia the right way. Marceloapm 19:53, 4 Iulii 2020 (UTC)